Sunday, 17 July 2022

32 Ancestors Challenge - Week 29 - Fun Facts

This prompt opened up a discussion between my husband and I.  What fun facts about our family members could we remember / come up with and could we prove them.

My husband’s father always said that he was the first British soldier to enter Trieste in Second World War.

He served with the Military Government, which became the Allied Military Government and the Allied Control Commission by the end of the War.  He served throughout the North African campaign, the Invasion of Sicily, up through Italy and over the River Po, to Trieste, then to Austria and finished the War in 1947 in Vienna.

A Sutch relative was in the Orchestra in Melbourne Opera House in Australia.

From a name in the 1851 census and then more research using ancestry.co.uk, we established that this relation was George Sutch, who has musical descendants in Australia to this day.

George Sutch was baptised in St George, Hanover Square on 16 February 1840 with his sister Ellen Eliza.  Their parents were John and Mary Sutch who lived in Thomas St.  John was a shoemaker.

The family were located in the 1841 census where they are still living in Thomas Street – John is a shoemaker, not born in London, whilst his wife Mary and the two children were born in London.  In 1851 it gets more interesting – George is a Lodger at 15 Grey St, Marylebone, a house of multiple occupation where my Gt Gt Grandparents were living with their 4 children, another brother and his wife and who were described as ‘Son’ of the Head of the household.  My Gt Gt Grandfather is a Bootmaker, whilst his brother William is a Musician, as is Lodger George.

George worked his way over to Australia as a musician and according to Australian sources1 from the internet, George was a Musician (The European Band), harpist, band leader, street musician and  itinerant musician.

‘It would appear that George Sutch senior arrived in Sydney in 1857 as a band musician on board the steamship European. From an address near Wynyard-square, in 1858 and 1859 he acted as agent for local offshoots of the ships' bands, the European Band proper, and a sub-group called the London Quadrille Band, which he appears to have run for a while with violinist George Arnold.

Probably in 1859, Jacob Clarke published what appears to be a local production, the ballad Norah McShane "arranged by W. D. Sutch" with an accompaniment equally suitable for pianoforte or harp. This was perhaps George's elder brother, William Sutch (c.1826-1887), a London musician, who may also have been in Australia, but if so only briefly, as he was in London for the 1861 and 1871 censuses.

In June 1862, Sutch was manager of the Prince of Wales Dancing Academy, with John Gibbs as leader of the band.

George senior, as a harpist, and George junior, as violinist, were active in New Zealand, 1868-70, in Tasmania in 1871-72, and later in Melbourne.

George junior was still active as leader of the orchestra at the King's Theatre, Melbourne, in April 1911, and, his son, W. G. Sutch, was a Melbourne violinist in 1915 and later.’2

Gt Grandfather Sutch claimed that Alfred and Henry Holmes, famous violinists, were his cousins.

The parents of the Holmes brothers were Thomas Holmes and Eliza Sutch who were married at St James, Piccadilly by Banns on 24 March 1823.  The witnesses were David Sutch and Ann Sutch, no doubt relations of the bride.  

Alfred and Henry Holmes were baptised together at Salisbury Street Wesleyan Chapel, Westminster on 7th November 1841. Alfred Thomas3 was born on 19 November 1837 and Henry4 on 7 November 1839.  Both the boys were violinists and have an entry in Grove’s Dictionary of Music and Musicians and entries in Wikipedia, see below. 


(c) Wikipedia

The novelist Fay Weldon is a descendant of Henry Holmes.

 

My Such relations always said that Screaming Lord Sutch5 was a relative.

The well known ‘pop star’ and parliamentary candidate, founder of the Monster Raving Loony Party,  Screaming Lord Sutch was born David Edward Sutch in 19406, the son of William J. Sutch and Annie E. Smith.  His father died at the early age of 25 in 1941 and was a Police Constable according to the 1939 Register. He was fatally injured in a motorcycle crash riding to duty in the blackout7.   William J. Sutch was born in the Kensington registration district in 1916, with a mother’s name of Panton.  A William E. Sutch married an Elizabeth Panton in the December quarter of 1915 in Christchurch [2b 2009].  William E was the son of Edward Sutch, a domestic coachman, and Emily and had two sisters, Lucy and Mary, with Edward being the son of Thomas Sutch, a coachman, and his wife Sarah Ellen.  Thomas states he was born in Warwickshire, as dies Sarah Ellen, with their son being born in Paddington.

If he is related to my Sutch family, it is very distantly!  Perhaps a case of same name, we must be related.

My Dad, an engineer, worked on the first jet engine   

When he and his colleagues saw the blueprints they all thought – No……it’ll never work, but it did.  This would probably have been at the de Havilland factory in Hertfordshire or Power Jets Ltd in the 1940s. I’d love to find out if this claim is true.

Twins

We both have instances of multiple sets of twins in the family.  

My husband's maternal grandmother had three sets of twins in Port William, Wigtownshire in Scotland in the 1920s - 1930s. 

My 5 x Gt Grandmother Martha did too.  Two sets with her first husband, James Nichols, my ancestor, and another set with her second husband, John Mann, in Badingham, Suffolk UK.

Notes

1.     1.   Australharmony - Biographical register S (Sk-Sz) (sydney.edu.au) (last accessed 27/04/2021)

2.      2.  https://trove.nla.gov.au/search?l-publictag=George+Sutch+d1892

3.       3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Holmes_(composer)#:~:text=Born%20in%20London%2C%20Holmes%20was,at%20the%20Spohr%27s%20Violin%20School.

4.      4.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Holmes_(composer)

5.      5.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screaming_Lord_Sutch

6.       6. Births Dec 1940   -  Sutch   David E            Smith   Hampstead        1a          540

W7. William Joseph Sutch – Police Roll of Honour Trust (policememorial.org.uk)

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